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Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - Blacky's Boy - 01-26-2015
I mounted the contactor into the enclosure and started wiring it up. It went together like an erector set.
(Legos for you younger guys) 
IMHO drawing out everything first really helped me do this so easily.
I was going to tie all the grounds into a common lug on the chassis but figured wire nutting them together would do the same thing. Right?
BTW, on the 125 V line, the black (hot) line is going to the top terminal of the connector. It looks like it's tied into the wire nut. But it isn't.
I would have probably been able to finish tonight it I hadn't purchased the WRONG style 220V plugs! I got the kind with one prong vertical and one horizontal. I need them both horizontal! Good thing I hold onto receipts.
But I did test out the remote and 125V connection. It works just like it should.
I just need to wait until I can get back to Home Depot and but the correct plugs.
I'll do that if we aren't snowed in tomorrowOnce I get this all buttoned up and working properly I plan on formerly writing it up and publishing it on my web site (www.tgiag.com). That way the sources for all the pieces and parts as well as the wiring will be saved somewhere.
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - BobW - 01-26-2015
That looks great! I'm going to file this away in case the remote on my Oneida SDG ever goes out.
One thing: You should probably run a ground wire to the metal box, also.
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector Black neutral? - kscott - 01-26-2015
I'm confused. In my breaker box black is hot and white is neutral. At least I THINK that is what it is. Am I wrong?
Ken
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector Black neutral? - Blacky's Boy - 01-27-2015
kscott said:
I'm confused. In my breaker box black is hot and white is neutral. At least I THINK that is what it is. Am I wrong?
Ken
You are probably right. Remember, ...me no Sparky. Me MECHANICAL.
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - fredhargis - 01-27-2015
The plugs you have might be OK. Look at the outlet. The 20 amp outlets accept both the 15 amp plugs (what you think you need, also called Nema 1-25) as well as the 20 amps plugs (what you have, Nema 2-20). So if your outlet is 20 amp, the plugs will work. If not, then you'll need to exchange them.
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - Blacky's Boy - 01-27-2015
fredhargis said:
The plugs you have might be OK. Look at the outlet. The 20 amp outlets accept both the 15 amp plugs (what you think you need, also called Nema 1-25) as well as the 20 amps plugs (what you have, Nema 2-20). So if your outlet is 20 amp, the plugs will work. If not, then you'll need to exchange them.
Trust me,...I tried. They don't fit. I KNEW I should have taken a picture of the existing plugs before I went shopping!!
What's REALLY maddening is that this is the SECOND time I've done something like this. When I was wiring up the DC several months ago I pulled the same stunt. Lucky for me I bought both styles and was able to return the incorrect one later.
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - fredhargis - 01-27-2015
I typo'd that first number...should have said Nema 2-15. Anyway, you know what you need to do. BTW, that pic will be useful to a lot of guys who think this is harder than it really is...much better than some of the other stuff I've seen. Your cad drawing is great as well, both really useful.
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - Blacky's Boy - 01-27-2015
On the way home I stopped by Home Depot and TRIED to find the correct 220V plugs
I looked and looked through the shelves there and wasn't able to find the correct style plug. It didn't help that it looked like the place was ransacked by the Huns. Nothing was in it's correct bin. I finally grabbed a hold of the guy working in that department and had him help me.
Even with photos of what I was looking for I was unsuccessful in conveying what I needed to the drone who was working there.
Here's the outlet
Here's one style plug that works:
And here's another:
I swear, I've had more intelligent conversations with my dog....
He ended up handing me the same ones that I just returned!! Rather than loose my temper, I ended up walking out. It's not his fault that he has no knowledge of electrical nomenclature and he's stationed in the ELECTRICAL SUPPLY AISLE!!!
Fred, you mentioned "Nema 2-15". Is that what these are called?
If not, can you give me the proper electrical terminology please so that when I ask someone I can say "I need a XXXX 220V Male plug and a XXXX 220V Female plug" and not have them look like I just spoke Klingon?
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - fredhargis - 01-28-2015
Dom, sorry...I'm not a sparky either. The 2-15 isn't the one you want, it's doesn't have the ground. The ones you need (either of the ones you pic'd would work) are called Nema 6-15 (the first one) or Nema 6-20 (the second one). I screwed up when I grabbed my reference and only looked at the flat stabs, hence my goof (surprised someone didn't point that out). Anyway, HD has them. You just got a hold of someone who should be flipping burgers instead.
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - Blacky's Boy - 01-28-2015
fredhargis said:
Anyway, HD has them. You just got a hold of someone who should be flipping burgers instead.
I saw those Fred but was worried when I saw the 15amp rating. This is a 3HP DC and it pulls about 13 amps. And since this was on a 20 amp circuit I thought that a 20 amp would be the way to go. If you look at the yellow plug in my reply above you'll see the 20amp rating embossed in the plastic housing.
This is what I was looking for and wasn't able to find.
20 Amp 250-Volt Plug
About the "burger flipper".......after some thought I realized that I never should have even called him over. He reminded me of a guy who used to work in my department who would brag (out loud) about how high he got the previous night.