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Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - Blacky's Boy - 01-25-2015
OK, I got all the components together
I'm one of those people that likes to work from a plan. Especially when it involves something that I'm doing for the first time. I find it easier to try and think things out first and have you're ducks in a row before you start.
If I've interpreted all of the comments correctly then this should be the way that the wiring should be laid out inside the enclosure.
Yeah, I know the symbols are probably wrong. But it's meant as a wiring diagram and not a true schematic. I just want to make sure that I'm attaching the right wires to the correct terminals.
If one of you Sparkies could look at this and tell me if I got it right I will proceed.
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - Cian - 01-25-2015
Very
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - fredhargis - 01-25-2015
Not a sparkie, but darn! you're good! Timely, I was just getting ready to look for this post to see how things were going. Does your lamp cord have a ground (?), that part maybe unneeded. But if it's there, no problem with using it.
Re: Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - Foghorn - 01-25-2015
Rick_B said:
[blockquote]Hank Knight in SC said:
Rick, you are right, opening and closing a blast gate turns the cyclone on and off. If I'm performing one operation, that's what happens. But if I'm switching between two or more machines, I use a different sequence: I open the blast gate for the first operation. When I' done, I leave it open and move to the next machine where I open the second blast gate. The cyclone continues to run. I can either leave the first gate open (my 5hp Clear Vue has plenty of suck for two machines in my small shop); or I can go back and close the first gate to direct all the suction to the second machine. In either case, the cyclone continues to run between operations. The switches are wired parallel, so as long as there is at least one closed magnetic switch in the circuit, the cyclone motor is on. This is no different from using a remote to control the cyclone, but it is different from using machine motor sensors to control the cyclone. I guess you could leave the machine running when you switch operations, but that doesn't strike me as a good practice.
Hope that makes sense.
Thanks Hank - makes perfect sense
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Another method of being able to open/close blast gates and leave the dust collector on would be to use a contractor with a 24 volt coil, wiring in a step down transformer for power, and then use 3way and 4 way switches so you have a switch at each machine to turn the dust collector off/on. (think of a light controlled at three locations ( 2-3way switches and one 4-way).
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - Blacky's Boy - 01-25-2015
fredhargis said:
Not a sparkie, but darn! you're good!
Thanks!
I've been working with AutoCad for so long that stuff like this is second nature to me. fredhargis said:
Timely, I was just getting ready to look for this post to see how things were going. Does your lamp cord have a ground (?), that part maybe unneeded. But if it's there, no problem with using it.
Funny you should ask about the "lamp" cord. The power cord I bought was #14-3 conductor (14-3 SJOOW). According to the Specs it's good for 20 amps. I got 10 feet of it and figured that I'd use a bit for the internal connections (inside the enclosure) and for the 220V as well as the 120 V line. The grounds would all be tied together at a grounding lug on the enclosure.
I was worried that I was wiring the contactor backwards or something like that (Trust me if there is the remotest possibility that it can be wired backwards, I'll find a way). There were no schematics included and Packard web site has little or no information on these. Do I have the connections right?
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - fredhargis - 01-25-2015
Two things: the 240V connections are fine. So are the 120V, if there's connectors on each. So it looks great. If you want to test your set up, wire the lamp cord (or whatever) to the coil, and then trigger it with your remote (before any 240V wires are connected). You should hear it click, and again when you turn the remote off. While the coil is closed, if you touch the 240V terminals with an OHM meter (W to W, or B to B), you will see them continuous, and obviously not when you switch the coil off. What did you decide about the manual switch you wanted?
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - Blacky's Boy - 01-25-2015
fredhargis said:
Two things: the 240V connections are fine. So are the 120V, if there's connectors on each. So it looks great. If you want to test your set up, wire the lamp cord (or whatever) to the coil, and then trigger it with your remote (before any 240V wires are connected). You should hear it click, and again when you turn the remote off. While the coil is closed, if you touch the 240V terminals with an OHM meter (W to W, or B to B), you will see them continuous, and obviously not when you switch the coil off.
Ok, I ill wire up the switch circuit first to the contactor and see if it behaves as you said. Unfortunately, I don't have an Ohm meter. Almost embarrassed to admit that. I just never saw the need. Of course, this is the second or third time I could have used on in about as many years. many it's time to breakdown and order one from Amazon. Got any recommendations for a down and dirty Ohm Meter that'll be used only occasionally?
fredhargis said:
What did you decide about the manual switch you wanted?
Oh, forgot to tell you about that. The remote has a manual override switch built right in. So I'm good for now. But I still plan on looking into making my own manual over ride switch. I just think it makes sense to have one.
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - Belle City Woodworking - 01-25-2015
Very Nice Dom!
John
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - fredhargis - 01-25-2015
The suggestion of using the Ohm meter was just to make you feel a little more like the mad scientist
, as well as provide some comfort to the process. I think you're good to go, but testing the coil first will insure you it's working. I've got 3 Ohm meters, and the ones that get used the most are the cheapo jobs that cost $10 each. Even one like this would work for this kind of stuff.
Re: Wireless Remote for 3HP Dust Collector - Blacky's Boy - 01-25-2015
Thanks for the link. I just added that to the rest of the stuff in my cart. (I got a 2Tb Sata drive and some other stuff there for my Media Server
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