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RE: strange behavior by my SawStop tablesaw - Tapper - 02-19-2025
(02-18-2025, 03:54 PM)iclark Wrote: PLEASE TAKE DISCUSSIONS OF GOVERNMENT POLITICS AND LAWYER SHENANIGANS TO THE BASEMENT.
There is helpful/useful information in this thread and it would be a loss to some members if it needs to be domed.
Please keep additional posts in this thread to technical and/or woodworking pros, cons, and anecdotal experiences.
Thank You.
This is a discussion about Sawstop tablesaws. They are unique pieces of equipment and thus the discussion about them is somewhat different. Why in the world is it "verboten" to discuss this topic intelligently in the Woodworking Tools section. Last time I checked it's a woodworking tool. Sheesh!
Doug
RE: strange behavior by my SawStop tablesaw - JDuke - 02-19-2025
Did Sawstop ever get back to you on a reason?
RE: strange behavior by my SawStop tablesaw - Handplanesandmore - 02-19-2025
How in the world can a feeder be a substitute for or an alternative to the finger-saving technology? The feeder is only suitable for repetitive ripping.
What about cross cutting? Using the table saw with a jig?
The feeder can be an addition to the sawstop, but nothing more. Woodworking Youtubers please stop misinforming the unguarded.
Simon
RE: strange behavior by my SawStop tablesaw - iclark - 02-20-2025
(02-19-2025, 12:04 AM)Tapper Wrote: This is a discussion about Sawstop tablesaws. They are unique pieces of equipment and thus the discussion about them is somewhat different. Why in the world is it "verboten" to discuss this topic intelligently in the Woodworking Tools section. Last time I checked it's a woodworking tool. Sheesh!
Doug
Discussions about tailed saws (of any brand) are fully appropriate in Power Tools.
Discussions of the legal or other shenanigans of a previous owner of a company belong in the basement.
Discussions of personal experiences with customer support by the current owners of a power tool manufacturer are appropriate.
RE: strange behavior by my SawStop tablesaw - iclark - 02-20-2025
(02-19-2025, 12:21 PM)Handplanesandmore Wrote: How in the world can a feeder be a substitute for or an alternative to the finger-saving technology? The feeder is only suitable for repetitive ripping.
What about cross cutting? Using the table saw with a jig?
The feeder can be an addition to the sawstop, but nothing more. Woodworking Youtubers please stop misinforming the unguarded.
Simon
Providing alternative approaches to keeping fingers away from saw blades and guts away from kickbacks are always welcome. Discussions here can help other WNers find approaches that work for them and provide safety improvements that they can afford and that they will actually use.
In the StumyNubs vid, the power feeder functions as a 3rd-party blade guard for some operations.
Is a power feeder a good solution for crosscutting? Not usually. Even when crosscutting plywood panels, they are probably not a great solution.
For people doing a lot of repetitive ripping (say for laminated rockers or stripper canoes), they might be a very good addition to any tablesaw (even a SS). Adding in-feed and out-feed tables would probably be a good safety addition for that sort of ripping.
Using the blade guard that came with a saw (or a 3rd-party upgrade) might be considered a "finger-saving technology," but it is one that is often denigrated in these discussions. It seems to have often been neglected to be mentioned when discussing turning off the finger-sensor on a SS.
RE: strange behavior by my SawStop tablesaw - Handplanesandmore - 02-20-2025
I suppose our definitions of alternative are far apart.
The feeder can only do ripping (but not cross cutting any smaller or narrow piece, for example), meaning it can only protect the fingers in a limited way. If ripping is the only purpose one owns the table saw, yeah, that'd be an alternative. In that case, a track saw may be a better alternative. Otherwise, the feeder is NOT an alternative to the ss for finger protection as the ss has no such limitations unless the feature is turned off.
Kickback is a different animal, and it's not what the ss technology is designed to deal with.
But I'd accept the feeder as a partial alternative (or an addition) to the ss.
Simon
RE: strange behavior by my SawStop tablesaw - Tapper - 02-21-2025
(02-20-2025, 02:14 PM)iclark Wrote: Discussions about tailed saws (of any brand) are fully appropriate in Power Tools.
Discussions of the legal or other shenanigans of a previous owner of a company belong in the basement.
Discussions of personal experiences with customer support by the current owners of a power tool manufacturer are appropriate.
This reminds me of the recent conference in Munich. In this discussion, I'll take the part of VP J.D. Vance. There is absolutely NO reason that ANYTHING relative to a Sawstop tablesaw should not be discussed in this section. The title of the basement is "Off-Topic." Discussing anything SS in the Woodworking Tools section is NOT Off-Topic material IMO - YMMV.
Doug
RE: strange behavior by my SawStop tablesaw - Admiral - 02-21-2025
(02-21-2025, 10:26 AM)Tapper Wrote: Discussing anything SS in the Woodworking Tools section is NOT Off-Topic material
Anything, well no; Ivan is correct.
RE: strange behavior by my SawStop tablesaw - Handplanesandmore - 02-21-2025
It isn't just here. Most woodworking forums (I mean moderators) avoid heated arguments -- even if it is not political or ideological in nature. Arguments turn some people off. Don't rock the boat, baby is the guideline. Over the FOG, for example, the thread is locked when a whiff of the US Canada tariff threats is sensed. Like it or not, don't rock the boat.
Simon
RE: strange behavior by my SawStop tablesaw - fredhargis - 02-21-2025
Walnutguy, I know somewhere in here you said you were going to cancel the ticket you had with SS...and several encouraged you to leave it in place to see what they would say. Which way did you go, if SS had a reply I would be interested to hear about it.