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Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - Skip J. - 10-26-2007
Crooked Tail said:
I finally got the new trestles basically built. This is a dry fit. You can see the first advantage is that the legs are spaced much wider. Don't ask me why I made the first ones so narrow... maybe I was afraid of whacking my knee on them.... The joints are much better then the joints in the doug fir also. The doug fir was still green, and seemed very, very soft. This is poplar, but it is kiln dried. All but one of the joints are a good tight fit. The one that isn't tight I goofed up on, because I was fitting it to the wrong mortise. Moral of the story: clearly mark which tab goes into which slot.
With my new-found knowledge of drawbored joints, I am considering using it instead of wedges. What do you guys think? Wedges would be easier and quicker. Aren't they also supposed to mechanically draw the joint tight? As you can see, these are through tenons.
Congrats on the new trestles CT! you're really making bench #2 out of bench #1...
I can't say about the comparison of strength; but since you have done drawboring already - it should be almost as easy as wedges...
I still think you could do PH racing-striped bench parts for the better off ww'ers.... a little non-metal bling goes a long way around here...
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - msweig - 10-26-2007
I'd just wedge it since they are through tenons. I would really suggest practicing drawboring first, and chopping out a few more of those mortises to practice on is a bit of a PITA.
mark
-who used drawboring on his bench, and had to chop out another 1" wide mortise and cut a tenon to match for practice. Ugh. Cool technique though.
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - mstens - 10-26-2007
I ran my stretchers across about the same location on my bench, and my tool cabs come up to just short of the top stretcher.. I have no problems with the gramercy holdfasts
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - Crooked Tail - 10-26-2007
Thanks, guys.
I decided to just wedge them. I will need to practice drawboring more. I am planning on using Grammercy holdfasts. Could either of you guys do me a huge favor? Could you measure the distance from the bottom of the holdfast to the plane of the lowest part of the arm? I don't have the holdfasts yet, but with that measurement I can plan how much space I need to leave.
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - mstens - 10-26-2007
mine hang 9 1/8" below the bench top loose in the hole.
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - BlueMaxx - 10-26-2007
How thick is your bench CT? The Gramercy holdfast do not work in thicker benches. I spoke to Joel from TFWW about it...just a heads up.
Great work, I am always looking forward to your updates!
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - mstens - 10-26-2007
I wonder at what point that happens. They work well in my 3" top
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - Crooked Tail - 10-26-2007
The main part of the bench is only 1.75" thick. I was thinking of screwing an additional piece onto the underside where the holes will go.
So... if mstens' bench is 3" thick and they hang down 9 1/8", then they are 12 1/8" long from the bottom of the arm to the end?
That's long. Is that right?
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - mstens - 10-26-2007
no, they hang 9 1/8" from the TOP surface of my bench
so they're 9 1/8" long. I'd say 9 1/2" to 10" to give it some wiggle room when knocked down.I've been clearer than mud before.. but not today
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - Crooked Tail - 10-26-2007
Ahh ok, that sounds much better! Thank you for clearing that up. I should have plenty of space above my cabinets then.
I've been holding off ordering a pair because I wasn't sure if they'd be too long. Plus, they must be heavy so if I'm going to pay shipping, I want to order lots of stuff to go with them. You know, chisels, dovetail saw kit, etc.
