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Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - FordPrefect - 10-04-2007
Crooked Tail said:
What's wrong with this picture?!
Ummm, you are still using the old bench?
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - Crooked Tail - 10-04-2007
Now, ripping PH by hand, that would be a feat. I've ripped short pieces ~ 24", and even that was a work out.
That I'm still using my old bench is one thing. I want to keep my new bench "pretty" until I get the cabinets finished. You can see I have been planing on it, though. I like it a lot for that, with the tailvise. I'll like it even more with a better base, though!
There's one other thing, of course in this forum it probably doesn't seem wrong at all...
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - FordPrefect - 10-04-2007
Well, you got me, I don't know. The only suggestion I have right now is that your new bench deserves a pair of Grammercy hold fasts, rather than those clamps hanging on it. Why clamp when you can whack?
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - Skip J. - 10-04-2007
Crooked Tail said:
There's one other thing, of course in this forum it probably doesn't seem wrong at all...
Hmmnn... well if it's related to this forum, then maybe it's because you ripped it by hand when there's a perfectly good BS in the background of the photo???
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - Crooked Tail - 10-04-2007
FordPrefect said:
Why clamp when you can whack?
I just might put that in my sig, LOL.Skip, you got it! I did finally acquire a (cheap) bandsaw which actually works pretty good for being an old Taiwanese knock-off. But the way I laid out this board (I could have done it different if I was using my noggin), it needed to be ripped all the way down the middle before cross-cutting, to avoid marring some of the pieces with the cc saw. So ripping something that long on the BS without any help would have been difficult and probably dangerous.
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - Skip J. - 10-05-2007
Crooked Tail said:
Skip, you got it! I did finally acquire a (cheap) bandsaw which actually works pretty good for being an old Taiwanese knock-off. But the way I laid out this board (I could have done it different if I was using my noggin), it needed to be ripped all the way down the middle before cross-cutting, to avoid marring some of the pieces with the cc saw. So ripping something that long on the BS without any help would have been difficult and probably dangerous.
My thoughts exactly... I just bought a D-8 rip with a thumb hole from Lynn Dowd and plan on burning fewer electrons myself in the future.. do you have a feel for how the framesaw compares to ripping with an old Disston?
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - Crooked Tail - 10-05-2007
I haven't (yet) had the pleasure of ripping with an old Disston. I have an inexpensive German made rip saw I bought from Woodcraft. It is much easier than cross cutting (for me anyway), and I can cut very straight lines with it.
However, the kerf is probably 2 to 3 times wider than that of the frame saw. It takes considerably more work than the framesaw to saw the same length. However, because of the wide blade, the cut is straighter and there is much less clean-up with a plane afterwards. So it is a trade-off. If I need to rip something where I don't have much wiggle-room in width of the board (where I can't afford to lose much width), I use the rip saw. If I have wiggle-room, I use the frame saw, unless it's a short piece.
In this case, cleaning up with a plane after the frame saw is less work than using the rip saw, and still having to do a little clean up with the plane.
I'm planning on getting a wider blade for the frame saw, or building another one with a wide blade, so that it will be easier to make long, straight cuts, especially for large ripping projects like this.
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - Skip J. - 10-05-2007
Crooked Tail said:
I'm planning on getting a wider blade for the frame saw, or building another one with a wide blade, so that it will be easier to make long, straight cuts, especially for large ripping projects like this.
Thanks! I'm going to try some long cuts with the D-8 before I decide on a framesaw. Josh has volunteered to make me one for our next trade, but I'm probably going to be ready for more of his famous beer by then. I made several long rips in a doug fir board with my Japanese saw awhile back, but the thin blade was hard to control of a long length - and I guess I'm preparing for the day when my Japanese saws need sharpened.
I know Bob (CedarSlayer) uses wide blades on his bow saws, so I suspect it would help the frame saw too.
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - biocmp - 10-05-2007
CT, did you state where you got the frame saw? or does anyone know a maker?
Re: CT's Most Excellent Workbench Adventure - Crooked Tail - 10-05-2007
biocmp: I built my own framesaw, that saga is here.
There are links to several webpages with directions at the beginning of the thread.
Funky Space Cowboy also has built a couple, and CedarSlayer I'm told makes killer bowsaws.