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RE: 1,497 and counting - Cabinet Monkey - 07-30-2025 (07-30-2025, 11:32 AM)DogwoodTales Wrote: The thought did cross my mind, but I wouldn't consider it because I like to make my own cabinets in a way that maximizes the available space to how we're going to use it and I'm sure that having cabinets of my design made by another shop is only going to cost me more money. Money that I can use for other things and I'm good with taking the time to do this. I was just amazed at how the parts count adds up. Perhaps your pride or need for control made you overlook my point ? I was advocating that YOU make the doors and drawer fronts yourself for the very reasons you mentioned. That’s where the “money” and artistry really comes in. I was asking whether you considered framless construction to same time and money. Perhaps you weren’t aware that carcass jobbers will make what ever you design and order - they simply program the machines to your order’s dimensions. They don’t really care whether you want a 12” deep wall cabinet or one 13 -7/32” deep. Ditto with a 24” wide base or 23-5/8”. Which means whether your design maximizes the available space to how we're going to use it is up to your design and specification prowess - not who cuts , drills, glues , and clamps the sheetgoods used for the carcasses. ! Same with drawer box jobbers. They’ll also make any size you’d like and with maple, poplar, walnut , Baltic birch ….whatever. And because these these places order material by the truck/train load - they get it cheaper than you can. Now of course you’ll pay them for labor , profit , transpo. ect…. , so in the end it’s rarely if ever “cheaper” but usually it represents a good “value”. Unless you value your time at $0. Then you win every time. ![]() RE: 1,497 and counting - DogwoodTales - 07-30-2025 Ha! ... those who know me know that I am far from a proud man, but I do take pride in my work ![]() I'm not shy on spending money on someone else labor. Auto mechanics is one example. I just hate working on my cars. Even for simple things like changing the oil. But this is time in the shop doing things I like. I did not miss your point(s). Good points in all and all things I would consider, but didn't and I chose to spend my time in the shop doing something I like. If time spent to money saved was always the focus, I'd hardly build anything myself. Why would I? I do this for the enjoyment of doing it. No I don't have the buying power of a cabinet shop, but given the quantity I still got a great deal on it. My kitchen build is comprised of about 2 dozen more/less regular sized cabinets (uppers and lowers combined), plus a built-in floor-to-ceiling pantry cabinet, and a 32x96" peninsula. I'm building angle base corner cabinets for upper and lower. I'm also making my own countertop (swmbo chose to go with a laminate instead of granite). And of course there's all of the drawers and shelves. All that for about $3500 in cabinet plywood. So ... entertain me. How much do you know/think all that would cost me to have a cabinet shop build for me compared to that $3k? Seriously/respectfully - I'm curious. RE: 1,497 and counting - Cabinet Monkey - 07-31-2025 (07-30-2025, 07:20 PM)DogwoodTales Wrote: Ha! ... those who know me know that I am far from a proud man, but I do take pride in my workSend me a list of all your box sizes and I’ll tack them on next time I request a quote for carcasses. Haven’t looked in over a year , but typically it’s been $100/ drawer w/hardware and $100-$300/ box depending on exact specifications. RE: 1,497 and counting - DogwoodTales - 07-31-2025 (07-31-2025, 02:17 PM)Cabinet Monkey Wrote: Send me a list of all your box sizes and I’ll tack them on next time I request a quote for carcasses. Thanks! So "$100/drawer w/hardware" I azzume means with full extension Blum undermount drawer slides and I'm assuming an average of $175 per box. So I estimate that I'm sparing $5,200 in cost by doing it all myself. Doing something that I enjoy doing. That leaves me $5,200 to pay mechanics to work on my cars ![]() RE: 1,497 and counting - Cabinet Monkey - 08-02-2025 (07-31-2025, 08:27 PM)DogwoodTales Wrote: Thanks! $5200 was your summup (cost) for all the carcasses and drawers you are about to produce yourself, based on my off the cuff pricing ? RE: 1,497 and counting - DogwoodTales - 08-03-2025 I checked a couple of sites for pricing and they appear to be about the same as what you guesstimated. So based on that and my assumptions in my previous post, I’m saving $5200 by doing it all myself. RE: 1,497 and counting - Cabinet Monkey - 08-03-2025 (08-03-2025, 10:00 AM)DogwoodTales Wrote: I checked a couple of sites for pricing and they appear to be about the same as what you guesstimated. Are you really ? $5200 would cover the cost from the site(s) you looked at for all of the drawer bodies and the 15-20 carcasses you are you are cutting and making yourself ? RE: 1,497 and counting - DogwoodTales - 08-04-2025 (08-03-2025, 09:02 PM)Cabinet Monkey Wrote: Are you really ? You seem to be on a mission. I didn't know you cared so much about me ![]() Given the specs of my kitchen plans, with the price assumptions above, yes I am saving $5200. I will not know exactly how much I'm saving without wasting someone's time to give me a precise estimate for work that I'm not going to hire them to do. I'm doing this myself anyway just because I want to. RE: 1,497 and counting - stav - 08-04-2025 Saving money and enjoying yourself in the process seems to be a win win. RE: 1,497 and counting - Cabinet Monkey - 08-05-2025 (08-04-2025, 08:50 AM)DogwoodTales Wrote: You seem to be on a mission. I didn't know you cared so much about me I don't inherently, but your refusal to answer makes me think you're conveniently ignoring the $3.5k you spent in material that would be included in the outsourcing price. Making your "savings" a lot less than 5,200. I would certainly not try to put a price/value judgement on your time or enjoyment of pursuing a hobby. I am just finding hard to understand your math. |